tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18968172.post1769497074364535483..comments2023-11-03T01:13:22.719-07:00Comments on The Rabbi Is IN with Rabbi Rami: This is WarUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18968172.post-33083511165546531592012-04-01T14:25:38.391-07:002012-04-01T14:25:38.391-07:00Promoted your blog here in Holland. Hat's off....Promoted your blog here in Holland. Hat's off.Loor Schrijfthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07778402705161289231noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18968172.post-75830491045218369792012-03-29T08:59:32.097-07:002012-03-29T08:59:32.097-07:00Great discussion. Thanks to you all.Great discussion. Thanks to you all.Rabbi Ramihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07549679279782491931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18968172.post-47565059509896829112012-03-28T12:27:00.384-07:002012-03-28T12:27:00.384-07:00The Rabbi is speaking to war, terrorism, revenge k...The Rabbi is speaking to war, terrorism, revenge killings, and the willingness to die for a cause. <br /><br />War and terrorism are simply acts of power struggles. Terrorism is the label assigned to the tactic used by the lesser opponent in an extremely imbalanced struggle. Faced with inadequate weapons or numbers for full frontal attack, terrorist harassment is the tactic of choice. The good guys use remotely guided smart bombs and drones; the bad guys use IEDs and suicide bombers.<br /><br />As the Rabbi was pointing out, revenge killings do not require religious zeal. Revenge killings occur for many reasons and by various groups such as militias or drug gangs worldwide. <br /><br />However, the willingness to die for your cause does require a zealous or “mindless” commitment often evoked ritual chanting, singing, or emotional appeal to fears or beliefs. This, also, does not require a religion, but it requires a religious (dutiful) or emotional override of rational thought. This can be religious brainwash programming, nationalist patriotic group think, or as in the soccer riot example, emotional drunkenness. Even the brilliant WWII Gen. G. Patton rationally spoke when he said “no one wins a war by dying for their (cause); they win it by making the other poor dumb (person) die for theirs.”(paraphrased)Erick Reynoldshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02296590207996971824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18968172.post-74008108680521334112012-03-25T14:47:18.616-07:002012-03-25T14:47:18.616-07:00Shalom Andrea and All,
Andrea wrote/asked:
"...Shalom Andrea and All,<br /><br />Andrea wrote/asked:<br /><br />"Who caused the Oklahoma City bombings? Or for that matter the murders caused for years by the KKK? " <br /><br />The Oklahoma bombing was on 19 April, 1995, nearly 17 years ago. Murders by the KKK predate that. This is why my question included the words "when was the last time," ie. to demonstrate that terrorism whose source is other than Islamic extremism is hardly happening if at all, at present. <br /><br />Andrea continued: "Or for that matter the "border patrol" volunteer groups who are just waiting for a kill. It's only a matter of time."<br /><br />And how do you know this? Do you presume to know these folks' hearts. <br /><br />Terrorism whose origin is Islamic extremism is what the world is confronting now. To claim any moral equivalency between them and the militias (which is what Rabbi Rami did) just ain't Kosher by any stretch of the imagination. <br /><br />Make it a good week,<br /><br />Blessings, <br />Jordaneashtovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15270513385083767093noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18968172.post-32957906599844819032012-03-25T05:39:06.063-07:002012-03-25T05:39:06.063-07:00To Jordan,
Who caused the Oklahoma City bombings? ...To Jordan,<br />Who caused the Oklahoma City bombings? Or for that matter the murders caused for years by the KKK? Or for that matter the "border patrol" volunteer groups who are just waiting for a kill.<br />It's only a matter of time.<br />Don't they meet in training camps, wave a lot of guns, drink and talk a lot of trash?<br />Anywhere "Truth"/"God"/"Principal" is called on to take out another group of people, we have a very big dangerous problem. Anytime they start seeing individuals as "them" we might as well give up and go to sleep. <br />And to Rabbi Rami,<br />I've read a lot of your blogs. Been entertained, laughed, enlightened. This one is truly brilliant. Thank you. I couldn't agree more with you. It's "sinful" as in missing the mark, what some people will call religion or faith.andrea perezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02187928609335174447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18968172.post-15317600774854402132012-03-24T07:07:50.245-07:002012-03-24T07:07:50.245-07:00Shalom Rav,
You wrote:
"Mohamed Merah said ...Shalom Rav,<br /><br />You wrote:<br /><br />"Mohamed Merah said he was avenging the deaths of his brothers in Afghanistan, and for that he needed no religious sanction. There are plenty of secular terrorists, just look at the growth in the militia movement in the US."<br /><br />The moral equivalency you suggest here quite simply isn't kosher as when was the last time someone from the militias actually killed someone? <br /><br />Shabbat Shalom,<br /><br />Jordaneashtovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15270513385083767093noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18968172.post-1617754471880387392012-03-23T21:39:39.471-07:002012-03-23T21:39:39.471-07:00Unfortunately in my experience, those who get invo...Unfortunately in my experience, those who get involved in those kinds of religions have not gone through the hard work of knowing who they are in the first place. Thus, it is all too easy for them to fall in with these kinds of religious institutions.<br /><br />Deeply self-aware individuals are not easily swayed by any institution; religious or otherwise.No One Specialhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08096524177557365692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18968172.post-68012630115342179322012-03-23T19:01:02.415-07:002012-03-23T19:01:02.415-07:00"So don’t imagine you have to abandon faith, ..."So don’t imagine you have to abandon faith, only ask yourself whether your faith is demanding that you abandon your self." I love that final statement - truly the heart of the matter.Charles Kinnairdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07651225996573989932noreply@blogger.com