tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18968172.post7828514344665820670..comments2023-11-03T01:13:22.719-07:00Comments on The Rabbi Is IN with Rabbi Rami: Parental Rights and WrongsUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18968172.post-61451292442889698782009-08-23T21:23:49.949-07:002009-08-23T21:23:49.949-07:00My dad seems to be going to his grave quietly
with...My dad seems to be going to his grave quietly<br />without saying "I trust you" or asking<br />"Do you love me"<br />so I must turn to avinu shebashamayim uvaaretz<br />our father in the heaven and the earth<br />the father of all fathers and sons<br />to hear the words I long to hear<br /><br />______________________<br /><br />I am playing soccer with my sons in Diamond Bay reserve, Sydney<br />as my father played cricket with me in Waverly, Johannesburg<br />as my sons perhaps will play with their sons in San Francisco or Tel Aviv<br />and I look at them in the fading dusk<br />wanting them to have the same sweet memories<br />and I am them and they are me<br />and we are all fathers and sons endlessly<br />and the Lord of soccer looks out of my eyes at their me<br />the Lord of hosts<br /><br />for more see<br />http://manofestoyomi.blogspot.com/2009/08/notes-on-fathers-and-sons.htmlManohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09506899902475428331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18968172.post-88819231476219411002009-08-18T13:51:52.759-07:002009-08-18T13:51:52.759-07:00This is beyond my thinking capacity right now...bu...This is beyond my thinking capacity right now...but I CAN tell you that I am still scarred by the whole Tooth Fairy thing. Can I sue my parents?Dihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04653282356172573799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18968172.post-37665308739208355142009-08-15T10:52:15.696-07:002009-08-15T10:52:15.696-07:00Shalom Patrick,
Bravo and thanks for saying what ...Shalom Patrick,<br /><br />Bravo and thanks for saying what I wanted to say about this horrific story.<br /><br />Biv'racha,<br />Jordaneashtovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15270513385083767093noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18968172.post-9691300125397190942009-08-15T10:17:32.365-07:002009-08-15T10:17:32.365-07:00Just a thought. We always bemoan that people don&#...Just a thought. We always bemoan that people don't have the courage to live their faith when the chips are down, or even if the stakes are not very high, for that matter.<br /><br />I don't think the stakes are any higher than when the life of your own child is on the line. These parents chose their faith over modern, conventional, medical wisdom. Even if I wouldn't have made the same decision, it must have taken a tremendous amount of courage to make the choice they have made.<br /><br />Being human, I'm sure those suffering the most right now are those same parents, relying on their faith to see them through this tremendous loss.<br /><br />Can you imagine the internal struggle that they must be dealing with at this time? Is it God's will? Is it my mistake? Could things have been different? Could my daughter still be alive? Did I do everything I could do? Is wanting my daughter to live above all else going against God's will? If you are living a faith-based life, these are giant questions. I think this must be one of the severest trials a parent could be expected to deal with. God help them.<br /><br />I would have chosen medical intervention. But that speaks of my faith and my personal desires more than anything else.<br /><br />Peace to all.Patrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989706048333815646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18968172.post-31760659347170834722009-08-14T14:30:26.958-07:002009-08-14T14:30:26.958-07:00Shalom All,
Moral relativism is no stranger to th...Shalom All,<br /><br />Moral relativism is no stranger to the writers of the Bible: "In those days, there was no king; everyone did what was right in there eyes." Judges 17:6 and again at the end of the book, 21:25 <br /><br />Shabbat Shalom to all of us,<br />Biv'racha,<br />Jordaneashtovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15270513385083767093noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18968172.post-82381022298308289052009-08-14T12:50:22.449-07:002009-08-14T12:50:22.449-07:00I'm still struggling with truth every single d...I'm still struggling with truth every single day of my life. How could I even possibly entertain the notion that I am passing truth on to my children? Would I be better off if my parents gave me the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help me God? Is this even conceivable?<br /><br />Ava died. That is tragic. People die every day for no good reason. That is tragic. That is life. Had doctors saved her, she may have been hit by a drunk driver a little later on, maybe died of cancer, maybe marry the man of her dreams who later gets killed in some war. Who knows? Life is so full of tragedies and who am I to decide which are acceptable and which are not? Do you not think that the parents are challenging their very basic spiritual assumptions at this point? Is the parents' ascent to truth not as important as the child's? I'm not condoning the parents' decision, but it just seems to me that life needs to make some really bad decisions in order to eventually make some good ones. Just like my own life.<br /><br />The trouble with truth is that it is never one-sided. We are always dealing in half-truths. Life is nothing if not paradox. We get into trouble when we only focus on one face of it.<br /><br />Oh yeah, and what Jeff said.Patrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989706048333815646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18968172.post-76968546656894498942009-08-14T10:27:33.403-07:002009-08-14T10:27:33.403-07:00Just so my kids don't grow up Yankee fans.Just so my kids don't grow up Yankee fans.Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01129489372197701535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18968172.post-22493403576259943772009-08-14T09:36:33.944-07:002009-08-14T09:36:33.944-07:00I agree with Judy in terms of what I see as our du...I agree with Judy in terms of what I see as our duties as parents to teach children how to learn, so they can go out as adults who lead fulfilling, honorable lives. <br /><br />When we start talking about rights, I'm a bit uncomfortable because it infers to me that the government needs to start getting involved in enforcing them.<br /><br />Do we really want the government concerning themselves about a child's intellectual welfare? I'm skeptical enough about public schools abilities to do that, let alone deciding whether the parents are doing it or not.<br /><br />I think the government needs to keep it's concerns with rather gross examples of ignoring the welfare of a child. When we get involved with something like the education of a child, I'm not sure where it would stop.Aronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17416496332922933822noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18968172.post-62094397591191807492009-08-14T08:55:55.971-07:002009-08-14T08:55:55.971-07:00This is a deeply profound topic -- one I've st...This is a deeply profound topic -- one I've struggled with as I raise two independent daughters.<br /><br />Do parents’ have the right to teach children whatever they please? To a certain degree, it's our obligation to teach our children. But I think it's dangerous to have the "right" to teach "whatever we please." Teaching children physical or emotional abuse and neglect is simply WRONG. There are so many other things that are just completely WRONG to teach children. But who is to determine what is right and what is wrong to teach children? <br /><br />You ask "Does the child have no right to truth?" I answer: Whose truth? Yours? Mine? The governor who has slept around on his/her spouse? The president who calls for an unnecessary war? The priest who sexually abuses children? The minister who believes you're going to hell if you don't accept Jesus Christ as your personal savior? The quiet Muslim woman in head-to-toe burka? Everyone has their own personal truths, and they live accordingly. They bring children into the world based on their personal truths. Thus, their children are raised with these truths -- good or bad, it's unavoidable. <br /><br />About letting the government hold parents responsible for their child’s intellectual welfare -- what does this mean? And does intellect have anything to do with our belief systems? I know some pretty intelligent people whose belief systems are completely out of whack with mine. In general, I say NO to the government being involved with this anyway. There's not enough purity of intention with politicians to make sure it's done "right!"<br /><br />If we bring children into this world, we have an obligation to make sure they make it to the age of 18 as happy, compassionate, healthy, independent-minded people. Once they are 18, we have to be willing to let them go to make their own decisions, no matter how similar or divergent they are to our own. The Worthington's failed this obligation by choosing their own beliefs over the wellbeing of their daughter.<br /><br />One offshoot of this -- what do we do when children reach an age to voice their own opinions about their health care (especially those who experience lethal diseases). Do we force them into healing modalities that they don't want to endure (chemo, for instance) because it is for their own good; or do we allow them to have a strong voice in what they are willing to endure?Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16585472329507632766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18968172.post-87237715855975818162009-08-14T08:55:40.035-07:002009-08-14T08:55:40.035-07:00The most important thing we can do teach our child...The most important thing we can do teach our children is to question and to respect their questions. Parents pass on their beliefs to their children - actively and passively. At the same time children need to be encouraged to learn all that they can and then make their own choices.Judyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00077690417475724041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18968172.post-72720768121389362182009-08-14T07:58:00.572-07:002009-08-14T07:58:00.572-07:00I hope you actually find answers to this one - peo...I hope you actually find answers to this one - people have been asking about this as long as I remember. <br /><br />I like that you are brave enough to start (or offer) the discussion.<br /><br />gMaggidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00857424986925369274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18968172.post-82754133466076801022009-08-14T07:49:03.568-07:002009-08-14T07:49:03.568-07:00"Does the child have no right to truth?"..."Does the child have no right to truth?" I think we all agree that truth is illusive and chameleon like.<br /><br />I taught my children all that stuff you mentioned from Christianity's top ten insanity list. They saw it then as crazy as I see it now. Currently, we laugh about it, I apologize and am open about how my search for answers has lead us all down some unholy paths. There is recovery and resiliency. <br /><br />But not so much for Ava. But do parents have a right to their truth...yes, unfortunately.Pattihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06099273924537238106noreply@blogger.com