tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18968172.post7739400741272434687..comments2023-11-03T01:13:22.719-07:00Comments on The Rabbi Is IN with Rabbi Rami: Mavi Marmara: A Turkish Love Boat?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18968172.post-5618669693688649652010-06-06T20:02:12.785-07:002010-06-06T20:02:12.785-07:00Yes all valid comments HaRavRam and Linda...give u...Yes all valid comments HaRavRam and Linda...give us the wisdom to know when to have the strength of the stone and when to have the strength of the reed, to bend rather than to resist...in the meantime how nice it would be if we could become a proselytising religion again, better welcome interfaith spouses, give up our victimology, and especially - have no fear in our heartsManohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09506899902475428331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18968172.post-6472892890288145762010-06-02T17:18:06.041-07:002010-06-02T17:18:06.041-07:00Re "I won't look at the u tube clip or th...Re <i>"I won't look at the u tube clip or the comments...why rub salt in a raw wound...if you look for anti-Semitism you will always find it...so I am not going to look for it."</i><br /><br />I agree that if you look for anti-Semitism you can always find it, and most of the time I don't look for either. There is always enough of it around (especially in cyberspace) that you can easily find it without looking for it, especially if you're the confrontational type like me.<br /><br />YouTube isn't normally the place I would expect to find such overt and vicious hatred, though. I mean, these people are serious Nazis and don't even try to hide it. As confrontational as I am, I would never have dared to come out of lurker status on that thread. I may be pretty foolhardy, but I'm not suicidal, after all!<br /><br />You didn't watch the video and I neglected to tell you what it's about, so let me clear that up now. It isn't a video of a bunch of anti-Zionist or KKK types demonstrating in front of an Israeli embassy. It's almost the exact opposite: It shows a crowd of Israelis demonstrating in front of the Turkish embassy, dancing and cheering and rejoicing over their "victory" that resulted in the deaths of between 9 and 15 activists. (BTW, why don't we know the exact number yet?)<br /><br />With THAT kind of provocation, it shouldn't come as any surprise that the video would bring the hardcore lunatic fringe out of the woodwork. If it had been produced by Goebbels or the authors of the <i>Protocols</i> it couldn't have served the purpose any better. It's true that anti-Semites don't need much of anything to get them going, but why pour gasoline on the fire?<br /><br />Besides, I agree with most of the world that the boarding of the Mavi Marmara in international waters and the deaths that resulted from it was immoral, unnecessary, and most of all unbelievably, catastrophically STUPID! But you can read the progressive Haaretz commentators just as well as I can, so I won't say any more about that now.<br /><br />--LindaRakshahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11280365011937595321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18968172.post-81072398613752514592010-06-02T09:25:05.897-07:002010-06-02T09:25:05.897-07:00I just watched an older DVD on anti-Semitism calle...I just watched an older DVD on anti-Semitism called the Longest Hatred (1991). It wasn't great, but worth watching anyway. Bottom line: Jew hatred is so deeply ingrained in Christianity and Islam that it will never die out. You don't even need Jews to maintain anti-Semitic rants. Just the idea of Jews is enough to make lots of people crazy with hate.Rabbi Ramihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07549679279782491931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18968172.post-7395115595825341352010-06-02T04:16:12.222-07:002010-06-02T04:16:12.222-07:00Hi RavRam and Linda
Linda I share your visceral f...Hi RavRam and Linda<br /><br />Linda I share your visceral fears...history has taught us that in the end every body dies...whether by cancer or in a plane crash or in a gas chamber...this si a scary thought...the madness of the projections onto Jews seems to be woven into the warp and woof of the word..the fundamentalsists say it is predicted in the Tanach - Eysav soneh et Yaakov - Esau hates Jacob...I won't look at the u tube clip or the comments...why rub salt in a raw wound...if you look for anti-Semitism you will always find it...so I am not going to look for it...to relive my worry I coined the following short item:<br /><br />The Latest Craze This Winter (I live in Australia)<br /><br />Are your underpants a bit tight? Are you struggling to find work? Or in a job already but don't like your boss, or fellow workers? Want to meet some pretty girls? Or just generally bored and wanting to make your day? Then come and protest outside your nearest Israeli embassy. Its fun! Its easy! Everyone's doing it! Its the latest craze this winter. Hang out with friends, find people who agree with you and do stuff you can't do at home - throw rocks, spit, and vent your anger, rage and frustration. In fact, several leading mental health professionals recommend demonstrations outside Israeli embassies. Quentin Quisling, a psychologist, explains. "Its a quick, easy and cost effective form of catharsis. In Roman Times people had gladiator bouts and public crucifixions. In the middle ages there were stoning and the auto de fe - the public burnings of people the Catholic church felt threatened by. But modern people have to maintain this veneer of civility. We're starved for places where we can jeer and taunt and express our more primal emotions and the frustrations of modern life. Which is why when a safe, easy venue and a target that is essentially powerless to respond is offered to us on a plate, we should take full advantage. So come on everybody, lets get dressed up in our kafiyot, and feel important and good about ourselves."Manohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09506899902475428331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18968172.post-81781764357215595902010-06-01T17:32:53.186-07:002010-06-01T17:32:53.186-07:00Re My fear at the moment is that Israel will once ...Re <i>My fear at the moment is that Israel will once again be demonized. It is just too easy to picture these “loving, good-hearted humanitarians” being brutalized by “violent, heartless Israeli soldiers.”</i><br /><br />It's even worse than that, because it isn't just Israel that is being demonized. It's ALL the Jewish people who are being demonized, including those like me who have been solidly in the peace camp for years. The Mavi Marmara incident has awakened the sleeping monster of anti-Semitism, which may go into (relative) hibernation for a while, but never seems to die.<br /><br />Check out this YouTube video if you don't believe me, and be sure to check out the comments after it.<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMzc1N1Cx3s&NR=1<br /><br />I just sent this link to the rabbi of our local Reform temple as a partial explanation of why I can't endorse the ARZA position. I was afraid of an anti-Semitic backlash (among other things) but the viciousness of these comments is pretty scary. I just hope it doesn't escalate into acts of vandalism against synagogues or (the recurring nightmare) another 9/11 type terrorist attack.<br /><br />Shalom,<br />LindaRakshahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11280365011937595321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18968172.post-35427941376724728492010-06-01T14:12:51.592-07:002010-06-01T14:12:51.592-07:00My heart is breaking. When did Hamas become the vi...My heart is breaking. When did Hamas become the victem? When did Israel become the victemizer? When did we stop believing in Peace?andrea perezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02187928609335174447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18968172.post-15317541108226295642010-06-01T13:07:09.237-07:002010-06-01T13:07:09.237-07:00There is always hope, but it's going to take s...There is always hope, but it's going to take something different, something - miraculous.Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14553090239325979814noreply@blogger.com